- Tamiya TRF416 - Jilles Groskamp Tips: Shock, Oil, Spring, Tires & Addetive - |
Edited and create by Marco (lynx75) email : lynx75 at gmail.com Shock I recommend zero rebound in most conditions. Only on carpet rubber tyre I use a little rebound. Less rebound has more traction, more rebound car is better for bumpy track. If you want to built the shock without rebound you can't use a sponge. I never use a sponge. We normally drill a hole in the top to reduce as much as possible the rebound to 0, because the air between the bladder and the plastic can go out, also for Pro Stock class I suggest to use little rebound. With making your shock with 0 rebound the shock shaft
always goes little bit back in, it's almost impossible to make it without
going back in. With thicker oil you can make the shock without rebound
easier then with thin oil, but normally I don't go softer then 450W in any
condition. We always run the shock 61.5mm, don't really know why, Maybe because Kiyo (TRF Mechanic) always makes this length. I use Much More blue o-ring with the standard TRF shock
shim. I rebuild the shock ones every race or practise because a shock
always have some leak. I never really tested 2 hole piston, I always run 3 hole and then play with the shock oil. For indoor we always use 1 o-ring, the blue Tamiya one
with little bit of rebounds, 5mm. 61.5mm is from the very top till the very bottom of the shockholders. Oil When you run in cooler condition you should use thinner oil with softer tyres. When the track temp gets hotter go to thicker oil, same springs or softer and go to harder tyres. All the TRF guys are using Much More oil. For better reaction you can try softer oil or little harder springs. You can try to stood up the rear shock one more. Or go
little softer oil in rear, maybe 400. From cold to warm weather the only thing I normally
change is shock oil. When you feel your shocks are not the same as the
previous practise you should rebuild them, not every run. Take out all the rebound in your shocks. Try 600W front and 500W rear. At my home track the RP30 tyre is working the best, it's 0.2 sec faster then Sorex 36. Spring A softer spring drives more easy then a hard spring and
it is mostly used when it's hot, helps to avoid tyre overheating as well
as run thicker oil. For low-med grip track you can try little softer spring and softer oil. I prefer thicker oil when it's hot like in Singapore,
600-700. Outdoors we normally use HB springs as they make the car little bit more aggressive I suggest to try HB springs, like Silver. These springs make the car more aggressive. Also make the front more narrow. I found the Tamiya spring (white/blue) always better on
carpet and better on highbite big tracks. I think you should use the spacer with the recess on one side. I think the manual use this spacer. For more corner speed try a harder spring. Also raise the roll centre will help. Mid turn off power, make the rear more stiff, lay in the shock. Like Worlds in Thailand we ran HB blue spring(14Lb) with 700 oil. Tyre It has been a long time that I tested different inserts
as all races these days are controlled tyres, wheel and
inserts. In the past we made holes to avoid tyre/insert
overheating. On foam I always use same tyres front and rear. Of course you can try little harder in front if the car is over steering. Hard to say which tyres you should use over there. I
guess it's pretty hot over there so Sorex 36 is not a bad choice. With new tyres I only remove the middle ring on the tyre. Some tyres, like at the worlds with the Sweeps we used some of the green stuff ( you clean the dishes with) and remove the complete top of the rubber to get it starting better. With old tyres I never sand. It all depends on which tyres you use and on which track surface. Most of the time we don't scrub the tyres, it's just a personal feeling. Foam racing on carpet is not as big anymore as a few years ago, so Tamiya have other priorities. But i think foam on carpet is still very cool! Well, with foam racing, especially on carpet you want
to use a small tyre. When you run in cooler condition you should use thinner
oil with softer tyres. Additive For outdoors I recommend Tyre Tweak
is still the best choice for Sorex 36 tyres and for most type of
tyres and tracks, this with tyre warmer for about 20min on 60 degree. For indoors we never use tyre warmers. |
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